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Another Kicker Format Thread Let's work together to figure this out.

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    Posted 27 August 2009 - 12:33 PM

    Hello everyone!
    I've been a long time lurker/ user of ubcd4win. More importantly the USB side of it. I love it. I think it's an invaluable tool. The only problem that I have with it is building a kicker CD. So many people I know and help out with computer issues own Dells that I really can't use this tool for them. I'm able to compile an XP SP3 in the UBCD builder and transfer it over to thumb drive and make it bootable without an issue. The only hang up comes from building a Kicker CD or image to make the thumb drive bootable.
    I've been doing allot of testing and searching and I haven't come up with much. All that I can tell you readers is that kicker formatting works in a corporate setting. Let me explain.
    I am able to compile, install, create, mount, and format. Every step of the UBCD process works, even creating the kicker CD. At home is another story. I realize that the systems are almost totally different in terms of XP SP version number and hardware attached. However I'm leaning towards a software conflict. possibly something having to do with Anti Virus, or virtual drive emulation software.
    I want to contribute something to this project after it has given me and some many others so much. Please. Post your finding here and lets lock this issue down!
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      Posted 27 August 2009 - 12:46 PM

      Ok. I've decide to chip away with this as I can. I've just removed PowerISO from my system and attempted to Create Kicker CD only. Format Failed
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        Posted 27 August 2009 - 12:50 PM

        Update...
        I'm checking Nero 7 Ultra Burn rights. I granted everyone burn permissions (whatever that means) hopefully this didn't have a negative impact on the drive format. It's never cause any issues with any other programs.

        UPDATE: No change

        This post has been edited by NickStihl: 27 August 2009 - 01:23 PM

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          Posted 27 August 2009 - 02:21 PM

          When the format fails it should display a dialog asking if you want to try again. What happens when you select "try again"?

          Please post your UBUSB.log file.
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            Posted 27 August 2009 - 02:25 PM

            Here's the output of the file. Thanks you for the reply


            8/27/2009 1:40:48 PM - UBUSB Version 1.0.44

            8/27/2009 1:40:48 PM - Windows XP Service Pack 3 (5.1.2600)
            8/27/2009 1:40:48 PM - Platform ID = 2

            8/27/2009 1:40:49 PM - Current Options...

            8/27/2009 1:40:49 PM - [Options]
            8/27/2009 1:40:49 PM - Don't Modify MBR Boot Code=1
            8/27/2009 1:40:49 PM - Don't Modify Partition Table=1
            8/27/2009 1:40:49 PM - Don't Format Partition=1
            8/27/2009 1:40:49 PM - Quick Format=1
            8/27/2009 1:40:49 PM - Filesystem=Fat32 - LBA
            8/27/2009 1:40:49 PM - BootLoader=Grub4dos
            8/27/2009 1:40:49 PM - BartPE-Folder=C:\UBCD4Win\BartPE
            8/27/2009 1:40:49 PM - Don't Copy BartPE Folder=1
            8/27/2009 1:40:49 PM - Create CD Image for USB Boot with No Bios Support=1

            8/27/2009 1:40:49 PM - Drive Type : Fixed Drive (HDD)
            Total Cylinders are : 121601
            Tracks per Cyliner are : 255
            Sectors per Track are : 63
            Bytes Per Sector are : 512

            8/27/2009 1:40:49 PM - The partition table will not be modified
            The boot code in the MBR will not be modified
            G: will not be formatted
            Your bootsector/bootloader will not be modified
            A 40MB image file will be created and mounted on drive letter Z: then formatted as Fat32 - LBA

            ARE YOU SURE YOU WANT TO CONTINUE ???

            8/27/2009 1:40:50 PM - Updating cached partition table...

            8/27/2009 1:40:50 PM - Partition Table Successfully Updated.
            8/27/2009 1:41:07 PM - Deleting existing C:\UBCD4Win\iso_root\kicker.img
            8/27/2009 1:41:07 PM - Creating C:\UBCD4Win\iso_root\kicker.img (40,959,999 bytes)
            8/27/2009 1:41:09 PM - Writing boot code to image MBR
            8/27/2009 1:41:09 PM - Creating Partition Table For 40MB kicker.img
            8/27/2009 1:41:09 PM - Writing partition table from \\.\PhysicalDrive2 to unused space in kicker.img mbr
            8/27/2009 1:41:09 PM - Writing 40MB kicker.img partition table to unused space in \\.\PhysicalDrive2 mbr
            8/27/2009 1:41:09 PM - Preparing mount command
            8/27/2009 1:41:09 PM - Mounting image as drive Z:
            8/27/2009 1:41:10 PM - Updating cached partition table
            8/27/2009 1:41:10 PM - Formatting Volume Z: as Fat32 - LBA
            8/27/2009 1:41:36 PM - Enumerating all open handles on the system
            8/27/2009 1:41:42 PM - Enumerating all open handles on the system
            8/27/2009 1:41:48 PM - Enumerating all open handles on the system
            8/27/2009 1:41:54 PM - Enumerating all open handles on the system
            8/27/2009 1:42:02 PM - Enumerating all open handles on the system
            8/27/2009 1:42:11 PM - Enumerating all open handles on the system
            8/27/2009 1:42:30 PM - Enumerating all open handles on the system
            8/27/2009 1:42:50 PM - Enumerating all open handles on the system

            What I'm seeing after it errors out is the same dialogue asking me if I want to try again. I've installed unlocker which didn't do much and disabled the system restore and indexing services.
            EDIT: I'm runing UBCD4WIN ver. 3.50

            This post has been edited by NickStihl: 27 August 2009 - 02:26 PM

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              Posted 27 August 2009 - 02:35 PM

              When the error message appears does Z: exist if you look in My Computer? Can you format it if you right click it and select format?
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                Posted 27 August 2009 - 02:39 PM

                It does not exist. I've tried checking the disk management console. It won't show up there either.
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                  Posted 27 August 2009 - 03:03 PM

                  I just uploaded a debug version to HERE. This version will pause and display a message box just after attempting to mount the kicker image to Z: so before clicking OK to it, open a command prompt and run tmpOut.cmd that will be in the same directory that UBUSB is running from. This is the same command that UBUSB is using to mount the image but you should be able to see the error and why it's failing.
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                    Posted 27 August 2009 - 03:13 PM

                    Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
                    © Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

                    C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>c:\ubcd4win\tmpOut.cmd

                    C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>"C:\UBCD4Win\vdk" open 0 "C:\UBCD4Win\is
                    o_root\kicker.img" /RW /L:Z:
                    Virtual Disk Driver for Windows version 3.1
                    http://chitchat.at.i...k.co.jp/vmware/

                    Installed the Virtual Disk Driver.
                    Failed to start the Virtual Disk Driver.
                    Cannot create a file when that file already exists.

                    C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>"C:\UBCD4Win\vdk" link 0 1 Z:
                    Virtual Disk Driver for Windows version 3.1
                    http://chitchat.at.i...k.co.jp/vmware/

                    The Virtual Disk Driver is not running.

                    C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>

                    Now we seem to be getting somewhere. Has VMware or MS virtual machine ever been know to cause issues with UBUSB?
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                      Posted 27 August 2009 - 03:30 PM

                      Do you have another vdk.exe or vdk.sys running somewhere else? Do you get the same message if you run it directly after a reboot?

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                      Not that I'm aware of but I don't use VMware
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                        Posted 27 August 2009 - 03:47 PM

                        View PostNickStihl, on 27 August 2009 - 04:13 PM, said:

                        Installed the Virtual Disk Driver.
                        Failed to start the Virtual Disk Driver.

                        Which protection software do you use?
                        Try boot to safe mode and run UBUSB.
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                          Posted 27 August 2009 - 04:12 PM

                          [quote name='cdob' date='27 August 2009 - 03:47 PM' timestamp='1251406052' post='76059']

                          View PostNickStihl, on 27 August 2009 - 04:13 PM, said:

                          Installed the Virtual Disk Driver.
                          Failed to start the Virtual Disk Driver.


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                          Which protection software do you use?


                          I'm running the McAffee security suite that I got with Comcast.

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                          Try boot to safe mode and run UBUSB.


                          I have tried this and sadly I'm receiving the same issue.

                          Edit. NM about the VDK.exe and .sys files. I just remembered what they were for LOL

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                            Posted 27 August 2009 - 04:31 PM

                            I just ran a search on all my drives and found VDK.sys and VDK.exe in my c:\ubcd4win directory but I also found a file labeled VDK.EXE-1E2369E9.pf in my c:\windows\prefetch directory.

                            UPDATE. Deleted the file. Still no joy.

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                              Posted 27 August 2009 - 04:38 PM

                              Is your XP 32-bit or 64-bit?
                              If you're afraid of taking any chances then the chances are great that you will never learn anything

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                                Posted 27 August 2009 - 04:40 PM

                                View Postpcuser, on 27 August 2009 - 04:38 PM, said:

                                Is your XP 32-bit or 64-bit?


                                It's a 32-bit fully updated SP3 installation. I know better than to ask for support on 64-bit as I remember it was unsupported. The hardware is 32 bit also just in case you were wondering.
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