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Another Kicker Format Thread Let's work together to figure this out.

#16 User is offline   NickStihl Icon

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    Posted 27 August 2009 - 05:16 PM

    View Postpcuser, on 27 August 2009 - 03:30 PM, said:

    Do you have another vdk.exe or vdk.sys running somewhere else? Do you get the same message if you run it directly after a reboot?

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    VMware or MS virtual machine ever been know to cause issues with UBUSB?

    Not that I'm aware of but I don't use VMware


    BTW. I only asked because these files are related to VMware. The links that are printed by the debugging tool tipped me off.
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      Posted 27 August 2009 - 09:14 PM

      Run at command line
      vdk.exe remove
      vdk.exe install
      vdk.exe start
      vdk.exe driver
      And post the output.
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        Posted 27 August 2009 - 09:41 PM

        C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>cd c:\ubcd4win

        C:\UBCD4Win>vdk.exe remove
        Virtual Disk Driver for Windows version 3.1
        http://chitchat.at.i...k.co.jp/vmware/

        Uninstalled the Virtual Disk Driver.

        C:\UBCD4Win>vdk.exe install
        Virtual Disk Driver for Windows version 3.1
        http://chitchat.at.i...k.co.jp/vmware/

        Installed the Virtual Disk Driver.

        C:\UBCD4Win>vdk.exe start
        Virtual Disk Driver for Windows version 3.1
        http://chitchat.at.i...k.co.jp/vmware/

        Failed to start the Virtual Disk Driver.
        Cannot create a file when that file already exists.

        C:\UBCD4Win>vdk.exe driver
        Virtual Disk Driver for Windows version 3.1
        http://chitchat.at.i...k.co.jp/vmware/

        Driver File : C:\UBCD4Win\vdk.sys
        Driver Version : 3.1
        Start Type : DEMAND
        Driver Status : STOPPED
        Number of Disks : 4

        C:\UBCD4Win>

        So I take it that I somehow need to get the driver started?

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          Posted 27 August 2009 - 11:09 PM

          Okay funny thing happened. I accidentally had my intended drive selected as the mount drive letter for my kicker cd. The operation completed and sort of worked. Qemu was able to boot to the selection menu but beyond that it's not bootable (obviously). An interesting outcome none the less. I also tried creating a full USB build just now with the UBCD4WIN iso build completed successfully and copied to the thumb drive. The kicker format failed. I just thought that I should add that point. And gents, thanks for the assistance. We'll get it.
          Cheers!:D
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            Posted 28 August 2009 - 05:03 PM

            I have another thought. Wouldn't it just be easier to somehow copy the data from an original kicker and incorporate it into a thumb drive? Is this even possible? I know that alot of other user's are seeing this issue with out any resolution. If this isn't feasible then what are the reasons?
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              Posted 28 August 2009 - 07:50 PM

              That would be possible but not realistic. The problem is that some other software is keeping VDK from starting on your computer. I don't know what more to suggest besides maybe using Process Explorer/Process Monitor to see what's going on.
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                Posted 28 August 2009 - 11:04 PM

                View Postpcuser, on 28 August 2009 - 07:50 PM, said:

                That would be possible but not realistic. The problem is that some other software is keeping VDK from starting on your computer. I don't know what more to suggest besides maybe using Process Explorer/Process Monitor to see what's going on.


                A good suggestion but I've already tried that also.:(Process explorer doesn't seem to be able to do much for me. At least I can't seem to find the conflict. I have a feeling that another program is locking the vdk.sys file. The formating and file creation clearly doesn't behave the same way on my home xp box as it does on my other xp box at work. At work the vdk.exe and vdk.sys files are "cleaned up" after the process completes. At home they linger.
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                  Posted 29 August 2009 - 01:44 AM

                  View PostNickStihl, on 29 August 2009 - 12:04 AM, said:

                  I have a feeling that another program is locking the vdk.sys file.
                  Yes, the 'vdk.exe start' output indicate this too.
                  Find the locking program.

                  Parts from protection software may be active at safe mode too.

                  Can you create a virtual machine an run XP at virtual machine?
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                    Posted 29 August 2009 - 09:39 PM

                    I too have been dealing with the 'format failed' problem while UBUSB was starting to make the kicker CD image. I managed to get it to work and am hoping that what I did may help others with this issue.

                    After getting the error message, I went into Windows disk management console (diskmgmt.msc). I deleted the partition on my USB HDD (the one that UBCD4WIN is going on). I then created a new partition (to replace the old) but chose not to have it formatted. I made it active and let Windows assign the drive letter.

                    After this I started UBUSB, chose my BartPE folder location, leaving all other settings default and clicked GO. After this everything completed including the kicker image creation! Why on earth would re-partitioning the USB HDD help when this problem seems to be with the virtual kicker image?

                    Hopefully somebody with more "under the hood" knowledge of Windows can tell is there's any logic to why this worked for me and why, until doing the above, kept hitting the wall while formatting the kicker.

                    I do remember seeing Windows Explorer listed a few times as being an app that had a lock on things. (I even tried killing explorer.exe but to no avail)

                    BTW, I'm running XP Home SP3, UBUSB V1.0.44 (had same problem with 1.0.45). Installed software includes: VMware Workstation 1.0.6, PowerISO 4.5 and ImDisk Virtual Disk Driver 1.1.4 to mount disk images.
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                      Posted 31 August 2009 - 01:40 AM

                      Tyee: I'm going to look into this. with more detail.

                      cdob: You also bring up an idea that I haven't been to thrilled about trying but I've been considering it none the less. If #24 doesn't yeild anything by tomorrow I'll give you're idea a shot. It looks what I'll have to do is start a fresh installation in a VM and begin installing software starting with UBCD for win. However... Do you think that it would be a bad idea to start with another system that I just have laying around not really being used for anything?:huh:

                      EDIT: I din't get back from the lake till a little while ago. I had some timber to cut this weekend at the lake for labor day. I hope everyone's weekend went well. CHEERS!:D

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                        Posted 31 August 2009 - 08:36 AM

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                        Do you think that it would be a bad idea to start with another system that I just have laying around not really being used for anything?

                        No. That would be a good idea.
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                          Posted 31 August 2009 - 11:40 AM

                          Then that's the plan going forward. I may not get to it until around 7PM Central tomorrow otherwise I'll do some troubleshooting and post my findings tonight.
                          Wish me luck!
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                            Posted 31 August 2009 - 12:51 PM

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                            Wish me luck!

                            Good luck and may the force be with you! :)
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                              Posted 02 September 2009 - 09:49 AM

                              UPDATE:
                              One thing after another came up over the last two days that required my immediate attention. I'll be working tonight on the UBCD test system build.
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                                Posted 08 September 2009 - 01:20 PM

                                Updated Again:
                                I apologize for giving you all any updates. My schedule just got nuts and I just had to get outta Dodge for the weekend. This week I should be able to begin testing hopefully.
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