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## Not Enough Space

### #1trancer646

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Posted 21 September 2009 - 01:45 PM

I'm new to this, so my questions might seem silly but I'd appreciate any help. I'm trying to repair a Toshiba satellite running windows vista. I'm using a dell inspiron running vista to create the ubcd. I have a windows xp disc with sp2. I get through the build process without problems but a cd only holds 700mb and I keep ending up with more than 800mb. Is it okay to use a dvd rather than a cd? Also, when I copy the xpcd, is it better to copy it as an iso image or just a direct copy to my hard drive?
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### #2pcuser

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Posted 21 September 2009 - 02:00 PM

Yes, use a dvd. Copy your xp cd directly, not an iso image.
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### #3trancer646

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Posted 21 September 2009 - 04:08 PM

Thank you. I'll let you know what happens.
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### #4Just Lucky

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Posted 22 September 2009 - 06:37 PM

I have the same problem.

My ISO is 849MB and I only have 700MB (80min) CDs.

I wanted to know if the ISO really was full so I used MagicDisc V2.7 build 106 (freeware) to mount the iso and then XP to size it.

It is only 115MB!!

So how do I recreate the ISO for an 80min CD instead of a 90min CD?
Can a 80min CD be the default?

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### #5Just Lucky

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Posted 23 September 2009 - 06:10 AM

Update 1.

I burned the ISO to a DVD and it didn't boot :-)
CDs boot fine but not the DVD.

BTW I noticed the C:\UBCD4Win\BartPE is 870MB.
I don't understand why the size of all the files on the mounted ISO are only 115MB...

None of my system files are hidden. Possibly a "feature" of MagicDisc?

Next I'll try cutting it down to just virus scanners so it will fit onto a CD.
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### #6mbarnes

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Posted 23 September 2009 - 07:37 AM

Hi Just Lucky

try burning the image file (ubcd4winbuilder.iso) using imgBurn.exe which is part of project
It will suceed in making a bootable Disk whether it is a CD-R (CD-RW) or a DVD-R (DVD-RW)
The default is to burn ISO images

(it avoids getting confused with options required to create bootable CD's, but not required to burn ISO images)

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### #7Just Lucky

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Posted 23 September 2009 - 08:32 AM

Hi Mike,

mbarnes, on 23 September 2009 - 08:37 PM, said:

(it avoids getting confused with options required to create bootable CD's, but not required to burn ISO images)

Thanks for the tip. I thought an iso was a "raw image" bit for bit. I didn't realise I still needed options to make it bootable!

I'll investigate... Might have to wait until the weekend though!

Thanks
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Posted 23 September 2009 - 09:31 AM

The ISO is an image and it is already bootable... but you can't just copy the ISO as a file, it must be burned as an image to the disk. If your burning software doesn't have the option, use ImgBurn instead.
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### #9Just Lucky

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Posted 24 September 2009 - 08:00 AM

rdsok, on 23 September 2009 - 10:31 PM, said:

The ISO is an image and it is already bootable... but you can't just copy the ISO as a file, it must be burned as an image to the disk. If your burning software doesn't have the option, use ImgBurn instead.

Oh, I did burn it as an image. If I put the DVD in the drive then I can see all the files.
So it "should" boot? I'll try it on other pcs.

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### #10Joshua

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Posted 25 September 2009 - 02:23 AM

Just Lucky, on 24 September 2009 - 03:00 PM, said:

If I put the DVD in the drive then I can see all the files.
So it "should" boot?

No, not if you don't burn it at a image!
Burn it as image, and try again.

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### #11rmanal

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Posted 25 September 2009 - 08:42 AM

Hello,

what is the size of the "basic" UBCD4win iso file if we just use the UBCD4win files without changing anything in the plugin selection and if we use a normal and complete XP SP3 CD?
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### #12mbarnes

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Posted 25 September 2009 - 03:17 PM

Hi rmanal

If you build with a standard XP source and do not configure any plugins (especially to update anti virus definitions)
you should get a iso just under a standard CD say 680 to 690MB

Once you update the anti virus definitions size goes over a CD 702MB

(I just checked my build was 697MB including some additional plugins)

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### #13rmanal

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Posted 27 September 2009 - 03:04 AM

For me when I add nothing the resulting CD is more then 700Mo, so I can't engrave it on a simple CD.
Is there a way to reduce this size: what can I delete?
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### #14cdob

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Posted 27 September 2009 - 05:49 AM

Used SP, language and custom addons get different sizes.

Edited XP source get different sizes too.
http://www.ubcd4win.com/...showtopic=13787

Disable plugins, you don't require.