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    Posted 30 November 2010 - 12:39 AM

    View Postasmodeus, on 27 November 2010 - 12:41 AM, said:

    It boots to menu but doesn't boot Windows. That's the topic.


    Well, there are two topics mixed. Do you remember the question from post #5

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    That's two different cases.

    Do not change MBR in your case. At menu scroll down and try all options.

    Whích hardware do you use?
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      Posted 30 November 2010 - 12:47 AM

      View Postcdob, on 30 November 2010 - 12:39 AM, said:

      View Postasmodeus, on 27 November 2010 - 12:41 AM, said:

      It boots to menu but doesn't boot Windows. That's the topic.


      Well, there are two topics mixed. Do you remember the question from post #5

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      That's two different cases.

      Do not change MBR in your case. At menu scroll down and try all options.

      Whích hardware do you use?


      I tried three options so far: first Windows, FreeDos or something like that and last Windows (title similar to first entry). First Windows gives me black screen and blinking cursor. FreeDos works. Last Windows doesn't do anything - nothing happens when I select it.
      That's with syslinux bootloader. Grub4DOS just gives me "not a bootable drive" and asks for a bootable drive.

      Hardware:
      Intel i7 920
      Gigabyte EX58-UD4P (has USB boot support; one of the latest BIOS versions flashed)
      6GB OCZ Gold 1600
      4 internal SATA drives, AHCI mode
      1 internal SATA DVD-RW drive
      2 external USB drives
      nVidia GTX 460 1GB
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        Posted 30 November 2010 - 12:32 PM

        View Postasmodeus, on 30 November 2010 - 12:47 AM, said:

        First Windows gives me black screen and blinking cursor. FreeDos works. Last Windows doesn't do anything - nothing happens when I select it.
        That's with syslinux bootloader.

        Adjust syslinux.cfg, compare http://www.ubcd4win.com/...indpost&p=81225
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          Posted 30 November 2010 - 04:07 PM

          View Postcdob, on 30 November 2010 - 12:32 PM, said:

          View Postasmodeus, on 30 November 2010 - 12:47 AM, said:

          First Windows gives me black screen and blinking cursor. FreeDos works. Last Windows doesn't do anything - nothing happens when I select it.
          That's with syslinux bootloader.

          Adjust syslinux.cfg, compare http://www.ubcd4win.com/...indpost&p=81225


          I corrected "COM32 chain32" to "COM32 /syslinux/chain.c32", removed first Windows menu entry.

          Now selecting Windows gets me "Loading the boot file... Booting..." on black screen and that's it.
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            Posted 30 November 2010 - 04:32 PM

            That's strange.
            Which USB drive do you use? Which storage capacity?
            How do you boot USB drive?
            Try boot, press F12? and select USB-HDD? Both at syslinux and grub4dos.
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              Posted 03 December 2010 - 07:55 PM

              View Postcdob, on 30 November 2010 - 04:32 PM, said:

              That's strange.
              Which USB drive do you use? Which storage capacity?
              How do you boot USB drive?
              Try boot, press F12? and select USB-HDD? Both at syslinux and grub4dos.


              This is Kingston 8GB USB 2.0 stick.
              I boot natively, either by settings it as a boot disk in BIOS or from boot menu (F12).
              Syslinux gives me "Booting...", grub4dos tells me that this is not a bootable drive.
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                Posted 04 December 2010 - 04:56 AM

                It's a mistry BIOS still.

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                This is Kingston 8GB USB 2.0 stick.
                Try a smaller size. Some BIOS emulates drive size different.

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                I boot natively, either by settings it as a boot disk in BIOS or from boot menu (F12).
                Which USB drive opitons provide BIOS?
                Which USB drive options provide F12?
                Which USB drive mode does use BIOS? USB-FDD, USB-ZIP or USB-HDD

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                grub4dos tells me that this is not a bootable drive.
                Which screen do you get? Which colour? Which cursor? Which true message do you get?
                Insert syslinux mbr.bin to this drive.
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                  Posted 07 December 2010 - 11:26 AM

                  View Postcdob, on 04 December 2010 - 04:56 AM, said:

                  It's a mistry BIOS still.

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                  This is Kingston 8GB USB 2.0 stick.
                  Try a smaller size. Some BIOS emulates drive size different.

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                  I boot natively, either by settings it as a boot disk in BIOS or from boot menu (F12).
                  Which USB drive opitons provide BIOS?
                  Which USB drive options provide F12?
                  Which USB drive mode does use BIOS? USB-FDD, USB-ZIP or USB-HDD

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                  grub4dos tells me that this is not a bootable drive.
                  Which screen do you get? Which colour? Which cursor? Which true message do you get?
                  Insert syslinux mbr.bin to this drive.


                  Sorry for delay, I just now found a smaller 2GB stick. It has no effect, however.
                  Syslinux gives me the same "Loading the boot file... Booting...".

                  BIOS shows USB drive as one of the HDDs in the boot priority list. On F12 there are HDD and USB-HDD options, either one works.

                  grub4dos:


                  How do I insert mbr.bin, just put the file in the root?
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                    Posted 07 December 2010 - 03:30 PM

                    Neither MBR nor partition boot code contains message "This is not a bootale disk."
                    BIOS display the message. BIOS dosn't validate MBR.

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                    How do I insert mbr.bin, just put the file in the root?
                    Use a hex editor: go back to post #5.
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                      Posted 07 December 2010 - 03:46 PM

                      View Postcdob, on 07 December 2010 - 03:30 PM, said:

                      Neither MBR nor partition boot code contains message "This is not a bootale disk."
                      BIOS display the message. BIOS dosn't validate MBR.

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                      How do I insert mbr.bin, just put the file in the root?
                      Use a hex editor: go back to post #5.


                      mbr.bin:



                      Don't even get to the menu.

                      Could you post mbr.bin that is 100% valid? I want to make sure I'm not using something that I'm not supposed to.
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                        Posted 07 December 2010 - 04:58 PM

                        Version mbr440.bin form Post #12 is fine.

                        However ubusb_mbr.bin dosn't contain a MBR. That's a partition boot sector.
                        Open the physical disk at the hex exditor, don't open the partition.
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                          Posted 07 December 2010 - 05:13 PM

                          OK, so I pasted 440 byte MBR onto this stick, opening it as physical disk.

                          This made it unreadable for Windows (it asks to format it) and on boot it just says



                          Here's the sector 0 as produced by UBUSB with grub4dos, btw. Writing this back on disk makes it readable again.
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                            Posted 07 December 2010 - 06:44 PM

                            View Postasmodeus, on 07 December 2010 - 05:13 PM, said:

                            Here's the sector 0

                            That's a partition boot sector still, not a MBR from a physical disk.
                            MBR code won't work at a partition boot sector, this turns partition unreadable for Windows.

                            Does your USB drive contain a MBR at all?
                            Start from scratch. Post your UBUSB log file.

                            And run ptedit32.exe. Select USB drive. Does exist a Parition Table?
                            ftp://ftp.symantec.c...es/PTEDIT32.zip
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                              Posted 07 December 2010 - 07:13 PM

                              07-Dec-10 16:13:03 - UBUSB Version 1.0.51
                              
                              07-Dec-10 16:13:03 - Windows 7/Server 2008 R2 (6.1.7600)
                              07-Dec-10 16:13:03 - Platform ID = 2
                              07-Dec-10 16:13:03 - 64-bit
                              
                              07-Dec-10 16:13:04 - Current Options...
                              
                              07-Dec-10 16:13:04 - [Options]
                              07-Dec-10 16:13:04 - Don't Modify MBR Boot Code=0
                              07-Dec-10 16:13:04 - Don't Modify Partition Table=0
                              07-Dec-10 16:13:04 - Don't Format Partition=0
                              07-Dec-10 16:13:04 - Filesystem=Fat32 - LBA
                              07-Dec-10 16:13:04 - BootLoader=Grub4dos
                              07-Dec-10 16:13:04 - BartPE-Folder=D:\_AcroTemp\UBCD4Win\BartPE
                              07-Dec-10 16:13:04 - Don't Copy BartPE Folder=0
                              07-Dec-10 16:13:04 - Create CD Image for USB Boot with No Bios Support=0
                              
                              07-Dec-10 16:13:04 - Drive Type  : Removeable Drive
                              Total Cylinders are      : 253
                              Tracks per Cylinder are : 255
                              Sectors per Track are   : 63
                              Bytes Per Sector are   : 512
                              
                              07-Dec-10 16:13:04 - WARNING!!! YOU ARE ABOUT TO WIPE OUT ALL DATA ON DISK 
                              
                              \\?\usbstor#disk&ven_gyration&prod_gyrotransport&rev_#8&2e40967f&0&000000006dca&0#{53f56307-b6bf-11d0-94f2-00a0c91efb8b}
                              \\.\PhysicalDrive7
                              Drive Letter: G:
                              
                              A single Fat32 - LBA partition will be created
                              Standard XP boot code will be written to the MBR
                              G: will be formatted as Fat32 - LBA
                              Grub4dos bootsector/bootloader will be used
                              All files/folders from D:\_AcroTemp\UBCD4Win\BartPE will be copied to G:
                              
                              ARE YOU SURE YOU WANT TO CONTINUE ???
                              
                              07-Dec-10 16:13:04 - Writing boot code to the MBR
                              07-Dec-10 16:13:37 - Clearing Partition Table... (writing 0x00 to bytes 446 through 512 of MBR)
                              07-Dec-10 16:13:42 - Clearing 0x55,AA signature from first 63 sectors... (writing 0x00,00 to bytes 511 and 512 of first 63 sectors)
                              
                              07-Dec-10 16:13:50 - Writing new partition...
                              
                              07-Dec-10 16:13:50 - Setting active/bootable flag for first partition (writing 0x80 to byte 447 of MBR)
                              07-Dec-10 16:13:50 - Setting starting head for first partition to 1 (writing 0x01 to byte 448 of MBR)
                              07-Dec-10 16:13:50 - Setting starting sector for first partition to 1 (writing 0x01 to byte 449 of MBR)
                              07-Dec-10 16:13:50 - Setting starting cylinder for first partition to 0 (writing 0x00 to byte 450 of MBR)
                              07-Dec-10 16:13:50 - Setting partition type for first partition to Fat32-LBA (writing 0x0C to byte 451 of MBR)
                              07-Dec-10 16:13:50 - Setting ending head for first partition to 254 (writing 0xFE to byte 452 of MBR)
                              07-Dec-10 16:13:51 - Setting ending sector for first partition to 63 and ending cylinder to 252 (writing 0x3F,FC to bytes 453 and 454 of MBR)
                              07-Dec-10 16:13:51 - Setting first sector of first partition to 63 (writing 0x3F,00,00,00 to bytes 455 through 458 of MBR)
                              07-Dec-10 16:13:51 - Partition Length = 4064382 (2016 MB)
                              07-Dec-10 16:13:51 - Setting total length for first partition (writing 0x7E,04,3E,00 to bytes 459 through 462 of MBR
                              07-Dec-10 16:13:51 - Updating cached partition table...
                              
                              07-Dec-10 16:13:51 - Partition Table Successfully Updated.
                              07-Dec-10 16:13:51 - Running D:\_AcroTemp\UBCD4Win\touchdrv.exe
                              07-Dec-10 16:13:52 - Extracting mkdosfs.exe
                              
                              07-Dec-10 16:13:52 - Formatting volume G: as Fat32 - LBA
                              
                              07-Dec-10 16:13:52 - D:\_AcroTemp\UBCD4Win\mkdosfs.exe -v -F 32 -n UBUSB G: 4064382
                              
                              07-Dec-10 16:13:56 - Copying files/folders from D:\_AcroTemp\UBCD4Win\BartPE to G:
                              
                              07-Dec-10 17:03:49 - Renaming G:\i386 to G:\minint
                              07-Dec-10 17:03:52 - Creating G:\winbom.ini
                              07-Dec-10 17:03:54 - Running D:\_AcroTemp\UBCD4Win\touchdrv.exe
                              07-Dec-10 17:03:55 - Using existing G:\syslinux directory.
                              07-Dec-10 17:03:55 - Extracting G:\syslinux\vesamenu.c32
                              07-Dec-10 17:03:56 - Extracting G:\syslinux\chain.c32
                              07-Dec-10 17:03:57 - Deleting existing G:\syslinux\UBCD4Win.bss
                              07-Dec-10 17:03:57 - Creating G:\syslinux\UBCD4Win.bss from current boot sector
                              07-Dec-10 17:03:59 - Extracting G:\grldr
                              07-Dec-10 17:03:59 - Extracting D:\_AcroTemp\UBCD4Win\grubinst.exe
                              07-Dec-10 17:03:59 - Running D:\_AcroTemp\UBCD4Win\grubinst.exe (hd7,0)
                              07-Dec-10 17:04:20 - Deleting D:\_AcroTemp\UBCD4Win\grubinst.exe
                              07-Dec-10 17:04:20 - Copying emptyregdb.dat to G:\minint
                              07-Dec-10 17:04:21 - Copying C:\Windows\Registration\*.* to G:\minint\Registration
                              07-Dec-10 17:04:24 - Copying D:\_AcroTemp\UBCD4Win\UBUSB.exe to G:
                              07-Dec-10 17:04:39 - Finished!
                              
                              


                              I don't get it, how is it not from physical disk when I copied it from here:



                              and this is "Physical disk".

                              PQ PT shows this:


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                                Posted 08 December 2010 - 02:46 PM

                                Strange: a MBR is created first. Next MBR is missing. Thanks for testing.
                                A protection software may protect USB drive.

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                                07-Dec-10 16:13:03 - UBUSB Version 1.0.51

                                07-Dec-10 16:13:03 - Windows 7/Server 2008 R2 (6.1.7600)
                                07-Dec-10 16:13:03 - Platform ID = 2
                                07-Dec-10 16:13:03 - 64-bit

                                Which operating system do you use?

                                As for testing purposes:
                                Run diskpart: select USB drive, clean disk and create a primary partition, format partition
                                Compare: Step 3: Prepare the UFD http://technet.micro...0(v=WS.10).aspx

                                Run UBUSB, don't modify MBR and partition table.
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