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HOWTO: Installing UBCD4Win to a Flash Drive Includes a boot menu

#61 User is offline   thejack Icon

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    Posted 22 March 2008 - 07:39 AM

    @ dummptyhummpty
    Thank you for your work


    I have a problem :
    With a kingson datatraveler 1gb, with petousb syslinux and your bootmenu (some istructions)
    with standard ultimate boot cd 3.12 (without changes)

    Returns an error after screen windows xp
    Before loading menu

    Title of windows error message : "Pre-Logon"
    Contain : " file not found"

    HELP ME!
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    #62 User is offline   cdob Icon

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      Posted 22 March 2008 - 04:38 PM

      View Postthejack, on Mar 22 2008, 07:39 AM, said:

      Title of windows error message : "Pre-Logon"
      Contain : " file not found"

      A idea:
      Which running windows do you use to build UCD4Win?
      Do you run Windows 2000, XP or Vista?
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      #63 User is offline   thejack Icon

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        Posted 22 March 2008 - 04:41 PM

        View Postcdob, on Mar 22 2008, 10:38 PM, said:

        View Postthejack, on Mar 22 2008, 07:39 AM, said:

        Title of windows error message : "Pre-Logon"
        Contain : " file not found"

        A idea:
        Which running windows do you use to build UCD4Win?
        Do you run Windows 2000, XP or Vista?


        WINDOWS xp sp2
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        #64 User is offline   cdob Icon

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          Posted 22 March 2008 - 04:57 PM

          View Postthejack, on Mar 22 2008, 04:41 PM, said:

          WINDOWS xp sp2

          Sorry, should work. Unknown error.
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            Posted 23 March 2008 - 07:27 PM

            View Postthejack, on Mar 22 2008, 08:39 AM, said:

            @ dummptyhummpty
            Thank you for your work


            I have a problem :
            With a kingson datatraveler 1gb, with petousb syslinux and your bootmenu (some istructions)
            with standard ultimate boot cd 3.12 (without changes)

            Returns an error after screen windows xp
            Before loading menu

            Title of windows error message : "Pre-Logon"
            Contain : " file not found"

            HELP ME!

            I am having the same problem with the kingston, i can put it on my other thumbdrives fine... i believe the data transfer is too slow for it to be used. Either it is that or the data traveler is built differently and have to be booted up a different way?
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            #66 User is offline   thejack Icon

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              Posted 24 March 2008 - 06:58 AM

              [/quote]
              ... i believe the data transfer is too slow for it to be used.
              [/quote]

              i am tested http://www.lexar.com.../lightning.html
              ultra speed usb pen
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              #67 User is offline   thejack Icon

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                Posted 24 March 2008 - 12:11 PM

                @[email protected]

                I think that our problem is the plugin located in to UBCD4Win\plugin\!Critical\Config-PreLogon
                PreLogonConfig - V-3.0
                if no exist no booting shell!
                I do not know how to properly configure this plugin
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                  Posted 26 March 2008 - 04:35 PM

                  Interesting to see a sticky up wrt booting UBCD4Win from a CD (or should that be UBUSB4Win?), as I haven't waded through the forums since last summer.

                  I see that this particular method uses syslinux. Has anyone given SIBLO (Simple Boot Loader - which is based on syslinux) a try?

                  Here are the differences between SIBLO and syslinux (from the above URL):

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                  Currently there are three main differences to SYSLINUX:

                  * SIBLO can directly start NT-loaders (NTLDR, SETUPLDR.BIN) - so you can boot Windows Live Systems like BartPE from FAT32-formatted USB-sticks of any size (up to 2 terrabyte).
                  * SIBLO writes itself into the reserved sectors at the beginning of a partition - there is no boot loader file (with the exception of the configuration file)
                  * SIBLO comes with its own installer program


                  Some more notes from the website:

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                  SIBLO is intended to be used with (large) FAT32 formatted USB-Sticks. It will work on FAT16 partitions, too, but will need at least 23 reserved sectors on the partition. By default FAT32 partions will have enough reserved sectors, but FAT16 partitions won't. Under Linux you can specify the number of reserved sectors as an option to the format tools.

                  A FAT32 "info sector" is left untouched if it is stored immediately behind the boot sector (which is usually the case) otherwise it might get overwritten. In this case the device will still work but IO-performance might suffer.

                  Despite the fact that the installer works under Windows, big USB-sticks are best formatted using Linux, which offers the option to use small cluster sizes. Cluster size affects performance and waste of space. A cluster size of 2KB (4 sectors) seems to be appropriate.

                  I'm currently investigating optimal cluster sizes. Maybe not even the size but also the offset of the first cluster from the beginning of the partition might considerably influence stick performance.


                  The configuration file has the same structure as syslinux. Here is their sample siblo.cfg file:

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                  prompt 1
                  timeout 0
                  default 1
                  say 1 Linux
                  say 2 Bart PE
                  say 3 Bart PE / RAM-Disk
                  say 4 RAM-Test (memtest86)
                  say 5 RAM-FS
                  label 1
                  kernel vmlinuz
                  append root=/dev/ram0 initrd=initrd.gz PMEDIA=usbflash
                  label 2
                  ntloader setupldr.xp
                  label 3
                  ntloader setupldr.2k3
                  label 4
                  kernel memdisk
                  append initrd=memtest.ima
                  label 5
                  kernel ramboot
                  append initrd=rbdisk.ima PMEDIA=usbflash


                  The author notes:

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                  The above example from one of my own USB-sticks uses two different ways of loading BartPE:

                  * directly from the stick - using the Windows XP version of "setupldr.bin"
                  * from a RAM-Disk - using the Windows 2003 version of "setupldr.bin" (you will also need "ramdisk.sys")


                  Thanks for posting a good set of instructions. You may want to add that you don't have to have the Windows 2003 setup CD to grab the files...you can get them from either the Windows 2003 SP1 or SP2 download.

                  Cheers! :)
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                  #69 User is offline   thejack Icon

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                    Posted 28 March 2008 - 10:49 AM

                    Your looks like a good solution
                    I tried to install but without result


                    For example
                    Having program installed and created the menufile Cfg
                    ntloader Where do I find it?
                    What method do copying ubcd4win?

                    There is a link or a discussion forum for this installation method?
                    Is useful if you can make a small guide on this forum

                    thanks
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                      Posted 04 April 2008 - 11:28 AM

                      I've been so buried the past year with Vista testing and clone building in our organization that I haven't stopped by lately. I wanted to offer my grateful thanks for this tutorial, files and capability! I have succesfully created bootable thumbdrive. I haven't fully tested it on multiple computer models, but the first one I tried worked, so hopefully this will be a great addition to our toolbag.

                      Now of course, I'd like to add some of the various images I use in my Multiboot section of the UBCD4Win, but I'm running into a problem. I've made a variety of boot floppy's that include in the \plugin\Multiboot-003\z_custom\images folder. I edited the custom_bcdw.ini file to add these to the initial UBCD4Win boot menu and they bootup just fine, so of course I'd like to add some of these to the thumbdrive.

                      Most of my boot floppy's are DOS based, but I do use the Memtest86+ from the www.memtest.org website, that isn't DOS based. I use a program called Floppy Image to make my .IMG files for each floppy disk.

                      I've copied my .img files into the \syslinux\images folder on the thumbdrive and edited the syslinux.cfg file to add a menu entry for each one and they do display fine on the menu, but the problem is when I select one of them to boot, it starts the process of booting that image but they always hang up during that startup process. I've tried a few different floppy image files I use in our UBCD4Win boot CD but so far none of them have work.

                      I thought I'd ask if anyone knows something obvious or incorrect that I'm doing or if others have had luck adding their own boot .IMG files to this and can offer additional info on how they accomplished it.

                      I don't know if it's due to how I make my .IMG files or the command to start them or what and I apologize for my lack of experience with this type of thing. Below are a few examples of the menus I added.

                      LABEL MEMTEST+
                        MENU LABEL Memtest86+ v2.01
                        KERNEL memdisk
                        APPEND initrd=\syslinux\images\mtest86.img
                        TEXT HELP
                        * version: 2.01 (21/Feb/2008)
                        * http://www.memtest86.org
                        Test System Memory for Errors
                        ENDTEXT
                        
                      LABEL SPINRITE
                        MENU LABEL Spinrite v6.0
                        KERNEL memdisk
                        APPEND initrd=\syslinux\images\spinrite.img
                        TEXT HELP
                        Bootup Spinrite v6.0 Disk Recovery and Analysis Utility.
                        ENDTEXT
                      
                      LABEL WIPEDRV
                        MENU LABEL WipeDrive v3.0.0
                        KERNEL memdisk
                        APPEND initrd=\syslinux\images\wipedrv.img
                        TEXT HELP
                        Bootup using WipeDrive v3.0.0 Boot Disk.
                        Destructive!  Used to thoroughly wipe out hard drives.
                        ENDTEXT


                      Once again, thank you very much for this great addition to the UBCD4Win project as I've had many techs ask me for a USB boot version of our BootCD and hopefully I can get a few of our custom boot floppy images added to this for them to use.
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                        Posted 10 April 2008 - 08:45 PM

                        I really like the idea of Siblo, but I couldn't get it working. I'm sure it will just take more time to fiddle around with it, but I gave up. Has anyone got a FAT32 format working with Siblo?
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                          Posted 30 May 2008 - 11:09 AM

                          I've been busy and for whatever reason I haven't been getting new reply notifications. If I have some time this weekend I'll read over the replies and see if I can help with anything.
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                            Posted 09 June 2008 - 12:07 PM

                            Hi All!

                            Have anyone tried UBCD4Windows on a USB flash drive of size larger than 2GB (e.g 8GB Patriot Xporter USB flash drive)?

                            Thanks for any kinds of help!

                            Rgds,
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                              Posted 13 June 2008 - 07:14 AM

                              I tried many times before make my USB PenDrive bootable, and load the UBCD4WIN. I would ask, Where is the GAIN from the CD/DVD to a USB Flash Drive??? :mellow:
                              Because the USB PenDrive is slower than CD/DVD to copy the files In. Slower than CD/DVD to load ubcd4win, and I think any other program too. :unsure:

                              Or maybe it is only my PenDrive fault??? I got a SanDisk Cruzer Micro.

                              I think it is much conveniente use a 8cm dvd-rw (like I do) to make a ubcd4win dvd, it's fast and works on many many pcs.

                              This post has been edited by Aqua: 13 June 2008 - 07:20 AM

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                                Posted 14 June 2008 - 11:18 AM

                                I am sorry because i interrupt like this!!!!

                                I try to boot UBC4WIn with ubcd4winTOUSB v.1.0 on my Kingston Data Traveler 4.0 Gb and its works very good!
                                But what is my problem!?!
                                I cant see my hard disk!!! (c:)
                                I just see floppy (A:),ram disk (B:) ,and my usb flash disk (X:)
                                So,can i see my hard disk at all?
                                If it is possible,how could i do this?(please put me a link!!!)

                                This is great stuff!!

                                I am sorry once more because i interrupt like this!!!!

                                Thanx!!!
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