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babar
Hey, I have 2 questions re: the original Ultimate Boot CD.

1) How do I put on the FULL version of NTFSDOS Pro? I have it and would like the full read/write functionality.

2) Can I put in other programs of my choosing on the Ultimate Boot CD? i.e. Ontrack Data Advisor... If so, a) which files must I edit, cool.gif which program do I use to plug in the program, e.g. Winiso, c) would I have to edit the menu to reflect the change?

Thanks!
SteelTrepid
hmm, well that's a complex question. Really I would like to offer only basic help for these CD's. Really just if you have a problem creating it, etc. Hopefully a member will be able to help you out with this, if not then you need to hit up Victor or his group for some help. Sorry not a prick, just don't have the time for modifications.
babar
I do respect that. I wasn't asking for modifications to be made though; I was asking how to make the modifications myself. Your work is much appreciated!!!
stidyup
Hi Babar try this, don't know if it will work this way but it's worth a try.

Use Isobuter and extract the boot information from the ISO.

Use ISO buster to extract entire contents of CD into a folder.

Rename NTFSPRO to NTFSDOS

Delete the contents of the NTFSDOS folder, but leave the folder there.

copy all NTFSPFO files into the NTFSDOS folder that you've justed extracted.

Rename BootImage.img which you extracted to loader.bin and rebuild the CD.

Run mkisofs with this command, this can be found with PEBuilder
mkisofs -J -r -o /ubcd.iso -b boot/loader.bin -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4

Or download and modify by pebldr update script from here, note this is not mkisofs so above command's won't work, but you should be able to figure out what needs renaming.

Not tried this so could be complete jibberish biggrin.gif , but it could work I would recommend you burn the created ISO on a CD-RW so you don't waste a CD if it fails. You may have to play around a bit with the above command, and folder name of where you extracted the contents too, to get the above to work.

If your wondering why I haven't done this via editing the ISO, that's because editing ISO files is a really bad idea as you can corrupt them. I corrupted my winxp iso by editing so any cd I created with it wouldn't boot.

Please post back as to what happened!!!

If it does fail there's this on the ubcd website on how to customise.

http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/
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Customizing Ultimate Boot CD

The Ultimate Boot CD cannot possibly contain boot disks of commercial software eg. MS-DOS, Windows, Ghost etc. It also cannot contain boot disks specific to your environment eg. network drivers, SCSI drivers etc. Neither can it contain the latest virus definition files. This section talks about how to create your own customized Ultimate Boot CD, tailored to your specific needs.

First, download a Win32 port of mkisofs here or here (local mirror). There are a number of files inside the ZIP file. You only need to extract mkisofs.exe and cygwin1.dll to a directory which is in the system path (eg. c:\windows\system32).

Then, copy all the files on the UBCD to a directory on your harddisk such as c:\ubcd. If you wish, you can directly extract the files from the ISO image using a tool such as WinISO or Daemon Tools.

You should now have a directory structure that looks like:

    c:\ubcd\
      boot\
        cdsh.bin
        loader.bin
        cdshw.com
        cdshell.ini
        modules\
          [Various .csm files]          memdisk
      docs\
      dosapps\
      freesco\
      images\
        [Various .img files]
      licenses\
      scsi\
      tools\
      ubcd\
      autorun.inf
      ubcd.ico

You can now customize the Ultimate Boot CD by adding your own floppy images to the CD. Floppy disk images can be created from the physical floppy disks themselves by using utilities such as rawread, or Floppy Image (you need to goto "Settings", and select "Create compatible IMG files").

Place your personal floppy disk images under c:\ubcd\images. Then edit c:\ubcd\boot\cdshell.ini to add each floppy disk image and its activation keystroke to the final ISO image. Use the existing sections as reference. If you need more information, please refer to the CDShell documentation.

New! You can now place your DOS-based programs under dosapps. To access them, either create a boot disk based on McAfee or F-Prot VirusScan, or run the FreeDOS boot disk and execute the program from the CD directly.

Finally, at the command prompt, from c:\ubcd, type:

    mkisofs -J -r -o /ubcd.iso -b boot/loader.bin -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 .

This will create ubcd.iso in the root directory of the current drive.

Note #1: If you are getting this error: mkisofs: Missing pathspec, you have missed out the final period in the command line. Go take a careful look again. The period is important as it tells mkisofs to include all files/subdirectories in the current directory to the ISO image.

Note #2: If you are still having problems, maybe you'd like to use this DOS batch file or this Linux shell file (only if you are running Linux) instead. These files were kindly contributed by Scott D. Wares.
babar
Thank you -so- much stidyup for these suggestions. I finally got around to working on the UBCD tonight and your instructions seemed to be a complete success--I got no error messages anywhere pertaining to NTFS.

However I ran into some other problems. F-Prot and McAfee will not start.

F-Prot, when loading, will show:
Mounting NTFS . . . "blah blah"
Going resident . . .
CauseWay Error 12: Not enough memory to load application

McAfee will show:
Going resident . . .
X:\DOSAPPS\MCAFEE>
(it doesn't even load)

Ideas? Suggestions? I did not mess with their settings so I don't know why they won't work.

Also, I tried putting on Partition Magic, I followed instructions and made the .img and modified the .ini file to show Partition Magic under Partition Tools. However when I start it up it goes:
Loading Boot Sector . . . Booting
Boot failed

Currently I have it set to load as memdisk, should it be set to something else? I have added Spinrite, Western Digital Data Lifeguard Tools, Ontrack Data Recovery and they all work perfectly, but for some reason Partition Magic won't go.

Appreciate your responses! I am having *MUCH* better luck with this UBCD than I was having with the 911 cd. I'm excited to complete this and get everything working. Thanks again.
babar
I tried switching all 3 programs (f-prot, mcafee and partition magic) to diskemu, but that did not solve the problem for any of them.

However I tried going to the FreeDOS boot disk option in the menu and executing F-Prot straight from DOS... it at least loaded but could not see the C drive...

Please help.... I"M SO CLOSE TO GETTING EVERYTHING WORKING!!! smile.gif
stidyup
If I get chance at work next week I'll have a look at PM.

What are you trying to load with PM? If your using the autoexec.bat this might need modifying slightly although I'm not sure how....

As for McAfee, F-Prot and ntfsdos, I've had them working fine together on my own dos boot cd but that's all using manual dos commands.
babar
NTFSDOS Pro works fine as far as I've seen.

Do you mean that you can't get F-Prot or McAfee to run straight off of the UBCD menu either?
babar
Yes, I'm a posting whore.

While looking for DOS antivirus programs, I came across this:

"F-PROT will run under all versions of Windows from 3.x to the recent XP-based systems, but it is not recommended on partitions that use the NTFS file system."

Reading further, it says to create a boot disk if working with FAT32 partitions, but that the boot disk will not work with NTFS partitions.

source of quote

I wonder if this is why F-Prot and McAfee are not working--I am trying to use them on NTFS drives. Also, the NTFSDOS Pro driver may be taking up too much memory, leaving too little for those programs to run.

Thoughts?
SteelTrepid
No I wouldn't consider you a "whore" just yet because:
1. your posts are hours/days apart.
2. and you actually provide information in them.

Unlike some of the "cool" or other single word, or only several word posts that the real whores used to post all the time. They also have the tendency to post another post right after the first post, instead of editting the first.

Anyways, I'm glad you are making a little progress in this. I am sorry that I cannot offer you more help since I do not know much about what you are trying to do. Also, it seems as if our current board members aren't familiar with it either. Have you tried contacting Victor or one of the project members for the original UBCD??

As for the F-Prot problem, yes I would believe that is what the issue is. I don't think many DOS applications can read NTFS partitions. Why don't you just use the WinUBCD??

Please continue to keep us posted, I would really like to hear when you get it working.
LittlBUGer
Hey...
LittlBUGer
now Ben...

Don't say that!...
LittlBUGer
about us Mods!!!

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babar
I found Victor's email over at Sourceforge so I'll email him and see if he can help out.
SteelTrepid
You know, I need to find forum software that has "Whore Options." I really need to email some software companies to place some type of smart filter in this software!! tongue.gif
Jotnar
NTFSPRO uses a god awful amount of memory (DOS memory), so you may want to make sure the floppy image isn't loading any unecessary stuff into memory.

Cheers
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