UBCD4Win Forums > VIDEO SUPPORT?

MattInLA

Jun 13 2006, 07:53 PM

I have posted to the forum various times regarding the UBCD WIN utilities to set (SETRES) the video mode, resolution etc. This has never really worked properly. Then it occurred to me, and I checked also, voila! UBCD does not install any video drivers, it seems to use the generic VGA driver. This seems odd, because you supply other drivers but no graphic drivers? Is this easy to implement? Seems important...as screen real estate quickly becomes a premium. I have an Intel ExtremeGraphics built in chipset....which as part of the DELL lineup certainly has to be one of the bigger chipsets out there for graphics...so what do we need to install graphics drivers? We install network drivers, storage drivers, usb drivers...what's the deal with GRAPHICS? ... ok then. I love this product so much now...and this is my ONLY concern!

rdsok

Jun 13 2006, 08:13 PM

Just like BartPE from which this project is developed, the goal has always been as a recovery/repair utility. Graphics and multimedia were the least of concerns except by users trying to use it for things other than what it was intended for. This should not stop you from finding and using these or other drivers for your uses... this just means that the project didn't have those intentions when it was created.

hilander999

Jun 13 2006, 10:12 PM

I am already working on a solution for this. Many members of this project don't want multimedia support added, but it will be coming soon enough anyway. It's a tough call on how to handle this but the arguments on both sides are vadid, so I would imaging that these features will either be disabled by default, or require an additional download if they add too much more size to the download. We are already much larger than anyone thought the download wuold be, but I see it getting around 150-160mb just with some required changes & added drivers.

rdsok

Jun 13 2006, 10:52 PM

I hope it was obvious that I was trying to explain why graphic ( one of the issues MattInLA brought up ) wasn't an area that has not been addressed... and not trying to discourage others from trying things in these area's

Moving just a bit off-topic from the graphics question...

@hilander999

How close to that goal ( of supporting graphics, video and other multimedia ) do you think the project is disreguarding the drivers themselves that is? I had felt it was very close now if only the drivers were added along with a few codec's to help support some of this.

hilander999

Jun 13 2006, 10:56 PM

QUOTE(rdsok @ Jun 13 2006, 11:51 PM)

@hilander999
How close to that goal ( of supporting graphics, video and other multimedia ) do you think the project is disreguarding the drivers themselves that is? I had felt it was very close now if only the drivers were added along with a few codec's to help support some of this.

Pretty close. For the codec question, I have already tested vlc mediaplayer & it works awesome without adding anything else, of course right now there is no audio driver support but that's not going to be very hard to introduce once I get other things finished. It's definately comming some time down the road.

LittlBUGer

Jun 13 2006, 11:09 PM

One of the main reasons we don't currently include any other drivers is because we use pebuilder's way of including drivers (the easy way) which currently only supports network and storage drivers. We could go the plugin route, but that's much more difficult and time consuming. I wouldn't worry too much about video support though as we are in collaboration with BTS himself and will soon have an easy method to integrate all of the BTS driver packs into the project (which of course include 3 different graphics packs).

Mr_Merlin

Jun 15 2006, 01:24 PM

I know with the older builds that had the 'option' for the BTS intigration that inclusion of audio worked flawlessly. Was able to view/play all my mp3's and music videos on the system. I am personally looking forward to the BTS intigration because part of the troubleshooting that i personally perform is actually on the hardware such as sound and video. Running a Live system with those allows me to verify wether the system can perform adequetly with known good configuration. This has personally saved me hours of TSing a system that had audio issues just to find out that the onboard chip was flawed, but in a spare and system worked good.

dirkgently42

Jun 15 2006, 08:54 PM

Hmmm... well, if audio card drivers will be supported in the future, I think the XP "Windows Welcome music" should be included as the default audio test file....unless we want to get fancy and use THX.

This is the "ear candy" that plays after a successful installation of XP.
Some may have never heard the install theme without having speakers attached or the proper soundcard drivers installed.
Still, others may have heard it one too many times.

XP Windows Welcome music:
C:\I386\TITLE.WMA
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\OOBE\IMAGES\TITLE.WMA

Just in case anyone wants to see it again:
the short "movie" that plays at installation can be found here:
C:\I386\INTRO.WMV
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\OOBE\IMAGES\INTRO.WMV

LittlBUGer

Jun 15 2006, 10:17 PM

QUOTE(dirkgently42 @ Jun 15 2006, 07:53 PM)

Hmmm... well, if audio card drivers will be supported in the future, I think the XP "Windows Welcome music" should be included as the default audio test file....unless we want to get fancy and use THX.

This is the "ear candy" that plays after a successful installation of XP.
Some may have never heard the install theme without having speakers attached or the proper soundcard drivers installed.
Still, others may have heard it one too many times.

XP Windows Welcome music:
C:\I386\TITLE.WMA
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\OOBE\IMAGES\TITLE.WMA

Just in case anyone wants to see it again:
the short "movie" that plays at installation can be found here:
C:\I386\INTRO.WMV
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\OOBE\IMAGES\INTRO.WMV

NO!!! Don't ever play that XP finished install music here, ever!!! NEVER EVER!!! I've heard it WAY too many times that it drives me nuts! Especially on laptops, they are the worst, as you can't prepare yourself for the speakers to go blazing before it's too late.... grrrr..... :-\

cdob

Jun 16 2006, 03:28 PM

QUOTE(MattInLA @ Jun 13 2006, 07:52 PM)

I have an Intel ExtremeGraphics built in chipset....
what's the deal with GRAPHICS?

ATI and Nvidia support more VESA settings.
Default vga.sys gives a proper resolution and colour.

Intel is different. Default vga.sys gives restricted resolution and colour.

Dell: goto BIOS set VGA RAM size

Add Intel graphics drives.

I prefer a basic graphic driver solution: 2D and refresh rate.
This add 300 kb filesize.

CODE

;PE Builder v3 plug-in INF file for VGA
;created by cdob

[Version]
Signature= "$Windows NT$"

[PEBuilder]
Name="Driver: Intel Graphics Driver"
Enable=1

;http://www.intel.com/design/intarch/swsup/IEGDWin.htm
;v5.0
;i810 - i945 Embedded Graphics Driver; tested: i845 and i865 desktop board

[SourceDisksfiles]
files\ssigd.inf=20,,1 ;Install file for Display driver - edited
files\igdmini.sys=4,,1 ;Display driver
files\igddis.dll=2,,1 ;Hi level Interface Dynamic Link Library

edited ssigd.inf

CODE

;*******************************************************************************

; Filename: ssigd.inf
; $Revision: 1.458.2.16 $
; $Id: ssigd.inf,v 1.458.2.16 2006/01/16 05:14:38 anthill Exp $
; $Source: /nfs/fm/proj/eia/cvsroot/ssigd/ial/dx/install/ssigd.inf,v $
;
; Copyright (c) 2003 Intel Corporation.  All rights reserved.
;
;*******************************************************************************

;edited cdob

[Version]
Signature="$WINDOWS NT$"
Class=Display
ClassGUID={4D36E968-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}
Provider=%Intel%
DriverVer = 01/15/2006,5.0.0.756

[Manufacturer]
%Intel%=Intel.Mfg

[Intel.Mfg]
%Intel% %i810%    = ssigd, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_7121
%Intel% %i810DC%  = ssigd, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_7123
%Intel% %i810E%   = ssigd, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_7125
%Intel% %i815%    = ssigd, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_1132

%Intel% %i830m%   = ssigd, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3577
%Intel% %i835%    = ssigd, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_357B
%Intel% %i845%    = ssigd, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2562
%Intel% %i855%    = ssigd, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3582
%Intel% %i865%    = ssigd, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2572

%Intel% %i915GD0% = ssigd, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2582
%Intel% %i915GD1% = ssigd, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2782
%Intel% %i915AL0% = ssigd, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2592
%Intel% %i915AL1% = ssigd, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2792
%Intel% %i945LP0% = ssigd, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2772
%Intel% %i945LP1% = ssigd, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2776
%Intel% %i945CT0% = ssigd, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_27A2
%Intel% %i945CT1% = ssigd, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_27A6

[ssigd.GeneralConfigData]
MaximumNumberOfDevices = 2
MaximumDeviceMemoryConfiguration = 128

[ssigd.Services]
AddService = igdmini, 0x00000002, ssigd_Service_Inst

[ssigd_Service_Inst]
ServiceType    = 1
StartType      = %SERVICE_DEMAND_START%
ErrorControl   = 0
LoadOrderGroup = Video
ServiceBinary  = %12%\igdmini.sys

[ssigd.SoftwareSettings]
AddReg = ssigd_SoftwareDeviceSettings

[ssigd_SoftwareDeviceSettings]
HKR,, InstalledDisplayDrivers, %REG_MULTI_SZ%, igddis
HKR,, VgaCompatible, %REG_DWORD%, 0
HKR,, PcfVersion,    %REG_DWORD%, 0x0400

[Strings]
Intel="Intel Corporation"
DiskDesc="Embedded Installation"

i810="810 Embedded Graphics Controller"
i810DC="810DC Embedded Graphics Controller"
i810E="810E Embedded Graphics Controller"
i815="815 Embedded Graphics Controller"

i830m="830M Embedded Graphics Controller"
i835="835 Embedded Graphics Controller"
i845="845 Embedded Graphics Controller"
i855="855 Embedded Graphics Controller"
i865="865 Embedded Graphics Controller"

i915GD0="915G/915GV/910GL Embedded Graphics Controller Function 0"
i915GD1="915G/915GV/910GL Embedded Graphics Controller Function 1"
i915AL0="915GM/915GMS/910GML Embedded Graphics Controller Function 0"
i915AL1="915GM/915GMS/910GML Embedded Graphics Controller Function 1"
i945LP0="945G Embedded Graphics Controller Function 0"
i945LP1="945G Embedded Graphics Controller Function 1"
i945CT0="945GM Embedded Graphics Controller Function 0"
i945CT1="945GM Embedded Graphics Controller Function 1"

SERVICE_BOOT_START     = 0x0
SERVICE_SYSTEM_START   = 0x1
SERVICE_AUTO_START     = 0x2
SERVICE_DEMAND_START   = 0x3
SERVICE_DISABLED       = 0x4

SERVICE_KERNEL_DRIVER  = 0x1

SERVICE_ERROR_IGNORE   = 0x0; Continue on driver load fail
SERVICE_ERROR_NORMAL   = 0x1; Display warn, but continue
SERVICE_ERROR_SEVERE   = 0x2; Attempt LastKnownGood
SERVICE_ERROR_CRITICAL = 0x3; Attempt LastKnownGood, BugCheck

REG_EXPAND_SZ = 0x00020000
REG_MULTI_SZ  = 0x00010000
REG_DWORD     = 0x00010001
REG_SZ        = 0x00000000