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Combining UBCD and WindowsUBCD create a single cd combining both projec

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    Post icon  Posted 25 August 2004 - 04:51 AM

    ***EDIT***

    Please look HERE for a complete, detailed, and updated guide to make a "combo" CD. :)

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    i hope this is not too technical but i have a method for combining both BartPE and UBCD (16-bit version) my last build date is Dec 5 2003, i will try this method on current versions and update if needed

    steps i took to combine the cd's are:
    1. create a directory to create the combined CD eg c:\mycd\
    2. Obtain the windows xp boot sector (the one from the cd) you can also find it on various websites relating to slipstreeming windows xp sp1/2
    3. build the pebuilder cd (but don't create the ISO) so that you have all the files ready for burning your combined cd...also i recomend not including the Boot CD Fix.
    4. copy the xp bootloader into c:\mycd\
    5. copy the contents of the UBCD (16 bit versdion) to c:\mycd\ note the autorun.inf files need to be combined by merging them into 1 file
    6. edit the menu of UBCD (16-bit version) to include an entry to chain to the XP bootloader in the root of the cd
    7. burn the cd using your favorite cd burning app, the boot loader to use to boot the cd is now the one used in the UBCD (16 bit version)

    you should now have a combined cd that boots up to UBCD and lets you select BartPE from the menu

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      Posted 25 August 2004 - 05:19 AM

      Nice :D

      Will try this when I get chance.
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        Posted 25 August 2004 - 05:53 AM

        Oh when you burn the CD you need to follow the instructions on boot options just as if u were burning the UBCD (16-bit) as that is what is actually booted
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          Posted 25 August 2004 - 06:16 AM

          Very good, I will hopefully get a chance to try this myself. I've had people request this but haven't had the time to figure out how to do it. If this works we really need to add these instructions to the FAQ.
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            Posted 25 August 2004 - 06:52 AM

            i am downloading the current versions now to see if this method still works
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              Post icon  Posted 25 August 2004 - 08:00 AM

              I will also test this at work once I get a chance. :)Sounds like it should still work. :)



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                Posted 25 August 2004 - 05:20 PM

                tested and works fine...here is what i did:

                Note: I am building with a Win XP SP2 slipstreemed cd

                I have noticed there is a file missing (removed from the windows cd by the slipstream process) with regard to ADO or a related plugin (some database plugin) as well as the common files plugin so if u include those plugins you will have to modify the inf's acordingly.

                1. Build the CD using PeBuilder as per standard instructions but don't create the ISO as that is not used. put the files from PeBuilder into d:\mycd\

                2. copy PRO1.DAT (this is the winxp bootloader, if u are building with win2003 use the win2003 bootloader instead) to d:\mycd\

                3. copy the files from UBCD (16-Bit) to d:\mycd\ ...overwtiting files when prompted

                4. i know this is not an ideal sollution but untill an alternative is sugested, edit autorun.inf so it looks as follows:
                ---start autorun.inf--------
                [autorun]
                open=Programs\nu2menu\nu2menu.exe
                ShellExecute=docs\https://www.ubcd4win.com/l
                icon=ubcd.ico
                ---end autorun.inf--------

                5. edit d:\mycd\boot\cdshell.ini adding a refrence for Windows UBCD eg
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                print " [F8] Windows Ultimate Boot CD "
                if ($lastKey == key[f8]); then chain /pro1.dat
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                I put this in the Others section for testing but it might be better to re-arange the menu slightly to have it on the 1st page, in my old build i had it as option 1 on the 1st page for easy access.

                6. burn the CD (or cdreate an ISO) using the following settings (i use nero):
                Bootloader...
                Image File = d:\mycd\boot\loader.bin
                no emulation
                load segment = 07C0
                Number of loaded segments = 4
                boot message is optional, i used Ultimate Boot CD

                ISO Settings....
                Filename length: (iso level 2)
                Format: Mode 2 / XA
                Character set: ISO 9660
                enable juliet
                relax restrictions:
                allow path depth >8 directories
                allow > 255 characters in path
                do not add ':1' ISO file version extension
                allow more than 64 characters for juliet names

                LABEL......
                Volume Label: Ultimate Boot CD

                You should now have a CD (or ISO) containing a combined UBCD and WindowsUBCD. Enjoy

                for future testing:
                it may turn out easier to include the UBCD (16-Bit Version) files in the custom directory so that PE Builder automatically includes them and then edit the following line in pebuilder.inf to point to the UBCD (16-bit version) bootloader to more fully automate the process but i have not tested this.

                exec="mkisofs.exe -iso-level 4 -volid ""WindowsUBCD"" -A PEBUILDER/MKISOFS -sysid ""Win32"" -b bootsect.bin -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 -hide bootsect.bin -hide boot.catalog -o ""@IsoFile@"" ""@OutDir@"""

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                  Posted 25 August 2004 - 05:39 PM

                  That is awesome, I hope I have time to make one tomorrow. Thanks for the details, etc. as soon as a few of us can confirm that this works....it will be added to the FAQ!!
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                    Posted 25 August 2004 - 06:02 PM

                    i feel this would go best on the main page of UBCD (16-Bit) which function key would u recomend?
                    i would make it F1 and move the others daown one.....would this work?
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                      Posted 25 August 2004 - 06:12 PM

                      I wouldn't want the possibility of offending the people of the original UBCD by moving things around. I think we should create a new menu item and would only support that. Don't get me wrong I appreciate the time you have spent on this but you have to understand the respect I hold for the original project (to certain degrees). I think it would also confuse people. So this is what I suggest....use the "1" key for the WinUBCD and even list it above everything else so that it is noticed. It should also be noted elsewhere on the main screen page when booting. Yes this is more work but I think it would be the right thing to do. Take a look at the main screen of the UBCD:

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                      Look at the top two lines, I would suggest the two lines be replaced with a three line heading reading something like:

                      THE Ultimate Boot CD (notice the capitalization)
                      http://www.ultimatebootcd.com VERSION 2.4
                      http://www.ubcd4win.com VERSION 2.01

                      Let me know what you think and I look forward to seeing how this works out!!!
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                        Post icon  Posted 27 August 2004 - 02:56 PM

                        other success stories?
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                          Post icon  Posted 27 August 2004 - 03:09 PM

                          I built one at work yesterday and it seemed to work great. I just took 3 lines of the empy space above the F1 option and added something like
                          "THE Ultimate Boot CD including the UBCD and WinUBCD All in One!"
                          "The Windows Ultimate Boot CD is v. 2.01 --- http://www.ubcd4win.com/"

                          "[1] Ultimate Boot CD for Windows"

                          Something like that anyway. The UBCD booted fine and ran great and so did the WinUBCD. I'll do more testing next week. :)



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                            Posted 27 August 2004 - 03:41 PM

                            Surely the Ultimate BootCD is no longer the ultimate bootcd if this works, we now have the ultimate bootcd we both ubcd and wubcd on one cd :D:D:D
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                              Posted 27 August 2004 - 05:04 PM

                              Yup time for Victor to change the name of his project....."Ultimate DOS boot CD"

                              Although he holds a few linux tricks on the disk so I don't think he can or should really call it "DOS", anyways...that will never happen would confuse too many people. I will post instructions on the website on how to build it. I just wish I would have had the chance to build one yesterday :(Spent time with one of my boys instead :Dso really that was better, I can build "The Ultimate Boot CD" anyday but who knows about my son......he could piss me off really bad next week and I'd disown him, :angry:at least I have the nice memories of playing MK (and letting him win), going to staples, and to the computer store with him. :lol::wacko:

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                                Posted 28 August 2004 - 12:03 AM

                                i think of the 2 projects as 16-bit and 32-bit...
                                i have another problem now tho, combined, my build is sitting at 705MB (this is as of the new network driver update)....i have an Office CD (not DVD) which has 1.4GB on it..... that's when u copy the contents of the cd to the HDD or do a select all and view properties rather than do a properties on just the cd drive, wish i knew how that was done :(

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