Menus in CD, Menu structure contained in CD Options

[lawson23]

I would like to suggest that you change the current menu structure to match what you have in the "LIST OF TOOLS" section of your website.

I find that this is the one thing that I find myself making changes to and the LIST OF TOOLS section is pretty good. The only thing I think I would change is the Viewer section.

I would find it nice though that the Menu match the list of tools so that it is easy for me to look up and compare the website to the CD.

This is not a really important suggestion just a minor improvement in my opinion. My opinion is just that my opinion.

[LittlBUGer]

That is interesting... Steel has just recently updated the List of Tools page so now he may be thinking of re-ordering the menu to match, I'm not sure, but thanks for the suggestion.

[Batfink]

I think think the viewers category is wrong too, what would you suggest ? I cannot remember why I choose it originally, maybe too many one item catergories ?

Check this thread
http://www.ubcd4win.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=1201

[SteelTrepid]

Yup, we just need to keep posting our ideas here now for this. I've had these past 2 days off from work, but been busy spending a little time with the family, still cleaning my office from the "painting fiasco" my wife started, and getting other things taken care of. Plus today I got my state taxes refund so I went shopping. New sonic game and desk chair for the boys, wireless keyboard & mouse and CD Burner for the wife, and new speakers for my computer!! So I haven't had the time to really think about this. I'm not asking you guys to do all the work for me, just wanting your suggestions, etc. I hope that spending time with the family these past 2 days will help me a little when I'm working ALL week long on the project next week!! Yeah, I love vacations! I guess you know you are a dork when you are looking forward to a vacation, knowing you will be at the computer working all week!!

[lawson23]

I have provided Steel with updated XML files that change the menu structure to the same as the list of tools for the tools listed, except the SHELL area. I left these along for now.

In doing this I found some items that were not in the list of tools. These items I did not assign a area for.

As for the Viewers ( I would throw them in something Generic like Applications)

I will keep my information updated and posted as I find out more. Hopefully I can complete this in time for the next release.

[Batfink]

Thanks lawson Applications sounds good. The list was done before Steel had updated the project with new apps. We need to get them into categories and up on the todo list, do you have a list of apps on the project that are missing categories ?.

So to sum up we have so far :-

• Antivirus
• Applications (Aka viewers)
• CD Burning Tools
• Disk Tools - Backup/Cloning
• Disk Tools - Defrag
• Disk Tools - Diagnostic
• Disk Tools - Partition
• Disk Tools - Security
• File Management - Explorers
• File Management - Recovery
• Malware Tools
• Network Tools
• Password Tools
• Registry Tools
• Shell Features
• System Information Tools - Information & Diagnostic Tools
• System Information Tools - Stress Test/Benchmark Tools

Not sure how hard it is too do, but could we add a beta sub-menu within each category to add semi working/untested in field progs to?
ie
Malware - Beta - Spybot (Semiworking prog that still requires some fixing)
Malware - Cwshredder (Fully working no known errors)

then each user knows that the progs there running in beta menu have issues and maybe someone can resolve them to take them out of beta ?.

PS not sure if cwshredder is fully working, just used as an example !.

This post has been edited by Batfink: Feb 17 2005, 01:18 PM

[lawson23]

Here is a list of XML files I have not edited (in other words either they don't exist in the list of tools or are part of the shell section).

copyhandler_nu2menu.xml
nu2shell_nu2menu.xml
freeundelete_nu2menu.xml
mbrfix_nu2menu.xml
diskimg_nu2menu.xml
IDEdrive_nu2menu.xml
autobackup_nu2menu.xml
ultrareader.xml
udevices_nu2menu.xml
peloader_nu2menu.xml
windirstat_nu2menu.xml
ultravnc_nu2menu.xml
PPPOE_nu2menu.xml -2k3
PPPOE_nu2menu.xml -XP
bartpe_nu2menu.xml
expressburn_nu2menu.xml
viewchmhlp_nu2menu.xml
penetcfg_nu2menu.xml
hdcleaner_nu2menu.xml
EZPCFix_nu2menu.xml
RecvMngr_nu2menu.xml
DriveErase_nu2menu.xml
sysclean_nu2menu.xml
peinst_nu2menu.xml
r-linux_nu2menu.xml
floppyrepair_nu2menu.xml
ras_nu2menu.xml
erunt_nu2menu.xml
popcorn_nu2menu.xml
scribe_nu2menu.xml
VncNeighborhood_nu2menu.xml
ShowTraf_nu2menu.xml
bginfo_nu2menu.xml
aspi_nu2menu.xml
keyboard_nu2menu.xml
unixutils_nu2menu.xml
geoshell_nu2menu.xml
ramdmenu.xml
mstsc_nu2menu.xml
autorun_nu2menu.xml
dskinv.xml

Not sure how hard it is too do, but could we add a beta sub-menu within each category to add semi working/untested in field progs to?
ie
Malware - Beta - Spybot (Semiworking prog that still requires some fixing)
Malware - Cwshredder (Fully working no known errors)

then each user knows that the progs there running in beta menu have issues and maybe someone can resolve them to take them out of beta ?.

If what I believe you are asking is for a sub menu as in the disk tools section yes this is easy to do. As in the Disk Tools it was very very easy.

I have posted the zip file that over rights all the XML files and will structure what I have done on my website. Please look for it at jamielawson.com/ubcd/plugin_xml.zip (case sensitive)
This way anyone can use/examine or help with this if they would like.

Steel if you have a problem with this please let me know and I will take it down ASAP.

This post has been edited by lawson23: Feb 17 2005, 04:36 PM

[Batfink]

These look like programs to me, the others seem to be the shell.

freeundelete (File Management - Recovery)

mbrfix (Disk Tools - Partition)
diskimg (Disk Tools - Backup/Cloning)
autobackup (File Management - Backup ***NEW CATEGORY*** ???)
ultrareader (Applications)
ultravnc (Network Tools)
expressburn (CD Burning Applications)
hdcleaner
EZPCFix
DriveErase (Disk Management - Security)
sysclean
floppyrepair (Disk Management - Partition)
popcorn (What is this ?)
VncNeighborhood (Network Tools)

Can someone fill in the category blancs ?

Lawson once these rogue programs get categorised we'll update the xml menu. What does everyone think about having a beta sub menu, is this too much work. Personnelly I think it will help new users to the project get to grips with whats working 100% and whats not. If we do implement this we're going to need a list of programs which are not working 100% ?..

I would appreciate your thoughts steel, if you would like this ?.

[SteelTrepid]

hdcleaner 
EZPCFix 
sysclean
popcorn  (What is this ?)

Don't worry about doing too much in the XML files, I will do all of those on my system. I just basically am asking for suggestions to what categories we should have and where the software titles fit in them. It's easier for me to modify my files and make sure they work.

hdcleaner - clears hard drives, removes unnecessary files
EZPCFix - remote registry editor
sysclean - antivirus
popcorn - email client

[Batfink]

Thanks steel, I think the only change me and lawson suggest to the category is

Viewers should be changed to applications
and I think we need one called File Management - Backup

So final cat list would be

Antivirus
Applications (Aka viewers)
CD Burning Tools
Disk Tools - Backup/Cloning
Disk Tools - Defrag
Disk Tools - Diagnostic
Disk Tools - Partition
Disk Tools - Security
File Management - Backup
File Management - Explorers
File Management - Recovery
Malware Tools
Network Tools
Password Tools
Registry Tools
Shell Features
System Information Tools - Information & Diagnostic Tools
System Information Tools - Stress Test/Benchmark Tools

[SteelTrepid]

Cool, now the only thing I worry about is the length of the menu titles.

Disk Tools - Backup/Cloning
Disk Tools - Defrag

DT - Backup/Cloning
DT - Defrag
etc.

File Management - Backup
File Mgmt - Explorers
File Mgmt - Recovery

File Mgmt - Backup
File Mgmt - Explorers
File Mgmt - Recovery

System Information Tools - Information & Diagnostic Tools
Sys Info - Stress Test/Benchmark

Sys Info - Information & Diagnostic
Sys Info - Stress Test/Benchmark

Any suggestions or changes for this idea??

[lawson23]

First Steel,

Don't worry about doing too much in the XML files, I will do all of those on my system. I just basically am asking for suggestions to what categories we should have and where the software titles fit in them. It's easier for me to modify my files and make sure they work.

You don't want me working on the XML's anymore?
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Second I would like to see a Compression section. You used to have one and housed the app IZArc in it but now it is listed as an explorer and I don't if Explorer really describes a Compression app. Just an opinion.
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Third a question on

Cool, now the only thing I worry about is the length of the menu titles.

Are you making the MENU under PROGRAMS like this?
Disk Tools - Backup/Cloning
Disk Tools - Defrag
or like this
Disk Tools (with a submenus inside Disk Tools of)
-Backup/Cloning
-Defrag

This way you can spell Disk Tools. I wouldn't abbreviate the names just use submenus as I did in the XML's I posted on my site.

This post has been edited by lawson23: Feb 18 2005, 11:34 AM

[Batfink]

The only prob with the category compression is that it will only contain one item, maybe if there are more than 1 app. Could we merge it with another category, for example

File management - Backup&Compression.

I think steel we could loose the tools at the end of system information, to keep that reduced. But with submenu's it shouldn't be that long (have to check on a 640x680 resolution to make sure it doesn't spill of the right hand side.

Therefore :-

• Antivirus
• Applications
• CD Burning Tools
• Disk Tools -
• ` Backup/Cloning
• ` Defrag
• ` Diagnostic
• ` Partition
• ` Security
• File Management -
• ` Backup&Compression
• ` Explorers
• ` Recovery
• Malware Tools
• Network Tools
• Password Tools
• Registry Tools
• Shell Features
• System Information -
• ` Information & Diagnostic Tools
• ` Stress Test/Benchmark Tools

[lawson23]

# Disk Tools -
# ` Backup/Cloning

# File Management -
# ` Backup&Compression

Should there be two BACKUP areas? But yes Compression with Backup is a good solution.

Also we have a few situations where we use & and some where we use /.
I think we should go to one. I really don't care which.

This post has been edited by lawson23: Feb 18 2005, 02:17 PM

[Batfink]

Your right I think we need to use & . As the system may interprete a / as a new directory.

Yeah see what you mean about two backup areas !. Perhaps we should have the backup under disk tools and just have compression under file management?. The reason I suggested another backup under file management is for the program Autobackup, which grabs only certain files (outlook express , my docs etc). Perhaps we could sneak this into File Management - Recovery ?.

In which case the list would be as follows :-

Antivirus Tools (<- note tools added on end to match other entries)
Applications
CD Burning Tools
Disk Tools -
` Backup & Cloning
` Defrag
` Diagnostic
` Partition
` Security
File Management -
` Compression (<- Dropping Backup)
` Explorers
` Recovery (As backup dropped, Autobackup program is here instead ?)
Malware Tools
Network Tools
Password Tools
Registry Tools
Shell Features
System Information -
` Information & Diagnostic Tools
` Stress Test & Benchmark Tools

This seems to cover all app placements now, until that is a new one comes along !

This post has been edited by Batfink: Feb 18 2005, 08:20 PM